. the paradox of the mittens, katrina. >> i mean the romney/ryan campaign so far has been defined by dodge, duck and cover. there's no -- the specifics haven't been there. but you know i think it's wrong to think of mitt romney as his own man. he's a vehicle for a republican party that has become very extremist and a vehicle for a party that also is trying to straddle many different factions and fractions, but extremism has won out. so tomorrow, it's not going to be the lincoln/douglas debates, we'll hear massaged talking points and debates have not been so decisive except when the races are very already tight, kennedy/nixon, gore/bush, but we may well see the narrative of a 1% romney which we've seen reinforcing the 47%. video and that -- and out of touch with not only his own being who he was, but with ordinary voters, average people in this country. >> i'm -- i'm eager to see how romney deals with follow-up questions. ryan's stuff the contention i don't have enough time, what i'm trying to basically tear apart the american social compact, you know, in some -- if you interpret it in one way bu